In a pivotal moment for the ANC, Mdumiseni Ntuli, who is head of elections at the party, is hoping to orchestrate a strategic campaign leveraging the gravitas of party veterans to sway public opinion. He invites Muhammad Hussain to talk about the campaign just after Thabo Mbeki lambasted Jacob Zuma this week.
A walk up Freedom Park in Tshwane is where I meet the ANC's head of elections, Mdumiseni Ntuli.
But he is late. He arrives when the guest of honour, former president Thabo Mbeki, is already on the podium spitting venom at his successor, Jacob Zuma.